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Subject: Re: Embarassment as part of Punishment

Author:
MAY
[ Next Thread |Previous Thread |Next Message |Previous Message] Date Posted:05:43:04 02/08/10 Mon
In reply to:Michelle's message, 'Re: Embarassment as part of Punishment' on 09:29:33 01/28/10 Thu
Like your mother Michelle mine also in the 60s thought embarrassment was a good tool to use on boys, I sometimes thought she went out of her way to spank my brother when there were females around. While I was 4 years older than him I did get a certain pleasure out of watching her spank his naughty bare bottom. It was obvious that as he reached around 12 and beyond, when mother found an excuse to pull down his trousers and undies in front of girls his own age or a little younger he protested much more that when it was just me or an older women watching.
I remember when he was 14 and two girls 11/13 year old were present with their mother he put up such a defence as mom went to pull his pants down, while he would never strike or physically resist, but he dodged and protested the likes I had never seen him do. when mom finally got him stripped below the waist she kept him standing an inordinately length of time while she pulled up his shirt and vest and lectured him. Looking at the two girls faces I could see that they were fascinated at seeing an boy older than them being prepared for a spanking. And boy did she give him one, the spank dance he did afterwards was one of the longest he ever did, at this point my mother always smiled and made some remark to relax everybody watching but also to embarrass my brother, the two girls were now openly pointing and giggling
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Author:
Michelle
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:06:46:17 02/08/10 Mon
May if your story is true, 14 is way, way to old for a boy to be given a spanking, not only in front of anyone, but even in private. My mom stopped spanking my brothers at around 10 years old.
Any 14 year old boy can resist and stop his mom from spanking him, by that age he does have enough strength to do so.
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Author:
MAY
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:07:30:25 02/08/10 Mon

This was the 1960s my brother was born in 1948, in some homes the buckle end of the belt was still used on teens, birching was still administered by the courts in parts of the British Isles the cane was used in most schools. Mothers , teachers aunts parents ect who embarrassed teenagers were common.
No it probably would not happen today.
But the one thing you would not find then, was teenagers disobeying their elders.
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Author:
Suzie
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:12:50:04 12/28/11 Wed
Absolutely agree May - you wouldn't see the disrespect of elders (parents, teachers, police) or the disrespect of authority generally in those days that we see now every day.
Suzie
>
>This was the 1960s my brother was born in 1948, in
>some homes the buckle end of the belt was still used
>on teens, birching was still administered by the
>courts in parts of the British Isles the cane was used
>in most schools. Mothers , teachers aunts parents
>ect who embarrassed teenagers were common.
>No it probably would not happen today.
>But the one thing you would not find then, was
>teenagers disobeying their elders.
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Author:
Janice
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:05:54:25 02/09/10 Tue
>Like your mother Michelle mine also in the 60s thought
>embarrassment was a good tool to use on boys, I
>sometimes thought she went out of her way to spank my
>brother when there were females around. While I was 4
>years older than him I did get a certain pleasure out
>of watching her spank his naughty bare bottom. It was
>obvious that as he reached around 12 and beyond, when
>mother found an excuse to pull down his trousers and
>undies in front of girls his own age or a little
>younger he protested much more that when it was just
>me or an older women watching.
>I remember when he was 14 and two girls 11/13 year old
> were present with their mother he put up such a
>defence as mom went to pull his pants down, while he
>would never strike or physically resist, but he dodged
>and protested the likes I had never seen him do. when
>mom finally got him stripped below the waist she kept
>him standing an inordinately length of time while she
>pulled up his shirt and vest and lectured him. Looking
>at the two girls faces I could see that they were
>fascinated at seeing an boy older than them being
>prepared for a spanking. And boy did she give him one,
>the spank dance he did afterwards was one of the
>longest he ever did, at this point my mother always
>smiled and made some remark to relax everybody
>watching but also to embarrass my brother, the two
>girls were now openly pointing and giggling
MAY,the last sentence of your post is rubbish,just think about it!
However i do agree with what you wrote.
In fact my brother at 13 in the early 70's was spanked with his pants down over my moms knee in front of our nan and 3 of our cousins.
Girls and boys!
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Author:
MAY
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:01:38:46 02/10/10 Wed
Yes maybe the tale was a little embellished, but it doesn’t alter the facts, my brother did in his teenage years receive quite a few pants down spankings from our mother, and notably in front of myself and various other females including those younger than himself. It didn’t happen every day ,week or month, but it did happen till he started work at fifteen and a half.
As a child I saw a few spankings dished out by mothers over the early years of my life down our street, and at junior school and had my own bottom warmed a few times the last being when I was eleven. Now at secondary school, that’s from the age of 11 till leaving school boys were often caned in the class room over their trousers sometimes in the gym with shorts only on. We, the girls, used to watch if at all possible.
While I only ever saw my brother have is pants taken down, girls who I worked with over the years told me how some of their brothers were punished, and he was not the only teenage boy who had is bottom bared while the family watched on. Quite a few were disciplined by their fathers, but for me I liked to hear how mothers dished it out to their sons.
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Author:
Joey to Janice
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:12:46:05 02/11/10 Thu
Janice, did your brother get embarrassed by having been spanked in front of you? Had he stated pberty the last few tmes yo saw him spanked at age 13? How mch jmping arond after the spanking did he do and what room was he spanked in?
May, you said yor brother was spanked till he was 15 1/2, was that in the living room and how did he feel about you seeing him spanked, did he ever say? Did he try to cover up during or after the spanking?
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Author:
MAY
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:02:11:51 02/12/10 Fri
Well as I have written, our mother was a natural at embarrassing my brother, from when he was little up until he left school. Whether it was verbally, when out somewhere , or when his bottom was bared, or before and after a sound spanking , she could do it.
My brother years later told me he over the years had got used to me being around when our mother spanked him (I was four year older than him), in fact any older person watching even Mrs Busybody next door, who seemed to have a nose for a spanking, and appeared many times, he was ok with, but after he was ten he really did not like girls around his own age or younger being there when his trousers and underpants came down, and that is just what our mother worked on.
So as you can see embarrassing boys was used, just by having females watch a boys punishment. You, mothers of today, will know if that type of discipline would work today and should it be employed these days.
Me I am just a doting Grandma these days, ney a Great Grandma.
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Author:
Janice
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:21:00:38 02/14/10 Sun
>Janice, did your brother get embarrassed by having
>been spanked in front of you? Had he stated pberty the
>last few tmes yo saw him spanked at age 13? How mch
>jmping arond after the spanking did he do and what
>room was he spanked in?
>
>May, you said yor brother was spanked till he was 15
>1/2, was that in the living room and how did he feel
>about you seeing him spanked, did he ever say? Did he
>try to cover up during or after the spanking?
My brother was spanked in what we called the bungalow.
He was embarrassed to be spanked in front of me and had not reached puberty. After he was allowed up, he tripped over his pants and unders that were around his ankles and spent a minute or so sitting there sniffling.
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Author:
Barbara
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:18:22:49 08/24/10 Tue
I strongly believe that the worst aspect of corporal punishment especially for teens is the embarrassment. I am certainly in favour of public chastisement, such as in front of the class or assembly in school, or with the family present at home. The ultimate detterrent to my mind especially with public punishment is the bare bottom. No other nudity is necessary, just a bare bottom for all to see, and left on display for a good long time. The atmosphere must be deadly serious and austere and the culprit needs to know that what is happening is shameful. My grandmother used it, my mother also, and so did I. Done properly it made punishments few and far between I can tell you. When my brother at age 15 was told by our mother that he was to be punished with the belt in front of the whole family across his nude bottom, and that he was first going to be placed in front of the mantelpiece with his vest tucked up to show his bare bottom for half an hour, he burst into tears on the spot. It had not happened to him in 5 years and it came as a shock.
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Author:
Billy
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:01:45:51 08/26/10 Thu
Barbara, it is one thing to have it done in front of just the whole family and quite another to spank a boy bare and exposed in front of the whole class or school assembly.
Growing up we were spanked in front of the whole class as normal, but never bare. This would be a bit saucy especially if it is a mixed class. Baring a boys bottom would also bare his front. Though admittedly this was in fact done in many American schools during the 50's.
I understand your point that this would be a bigger deterrent for good behaviour both at school and at home and even more so for juvenile crime, but I don't knw how this could be possible in today's world.
Also do you agree that this should be done with both boys and girls or only with boys?
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Author:
Tom
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:13:24:28 09/05/10 Sun
Billy, Are you sure kids were paddled bare at US schools in the 1950's? I grew up during that time period, and nearly every boy I knew was spanked bare bottom at home, but I never knew of anyone who received it at school.
The public school I attended used the paddle from first grade through and including senior year. As a matter of fact, two senior boys were paddled while we were on the senior trip; fortunately I wasn't one of them. Principals swung the most paddles, but teachers did too. Even though a whipping in the principal's office was private, it could be heard up and down the hallway, and within fifteen minutes it seemed that everyone in the school knew who had been on the receiving end.
I suppose it is possible that someone may have been paddled bare in a locker room, but I never heard about it. It didn't make much difference there because gym shorts offered mighty little protection.
I know many will not agree with me today, but I for one appreciate the fact that my school years were spent in a school that made us behave. Everyone knew the rules, and everyone knew the likely consequences of their actions. I never once heard a recipient of a school spanking complain about unfairness.
In those days teachers and principals didn't have to contact parents for permission to discipline nor did they need another professional to witness in the event someone would question the severity of the paddling. Perhaps this would not have been true had we lived in a city, but we were in a small town where everyone knew everyone else, and teachers were respected, important members of the community, and our parents entrusted them to do what was best for us which sometimes included spanking.
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Author:
Robjo Sr
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:09:53:01 03/09/11 Wed
Tom:
I also grew up in the 50-60 and went to an all boys parochial HS! The brothers walked around our hallway with a leather short strap, and would give it to u in the hallway. If it was real serious, they'd make u drop trou right then and wallop your butt with just underpants. For real serious misdeeds, u got sent to the Head and whipped bare in the office. And, within minuets all knew who had gotten 'it'.
We also were paddled by coach in the locker room, usually with either our jockstrap on, or bare!
>schools in the 1950's? I grew up during that time
>period, and nearly every boy I knew was spanked bare
>bottom at home, but I never knew of anyone who
>received it at school.
>
>The public school I attended used the paddle from
>first grade through and including senior year. As a
>matter of fact, two senior boys were paddled while we
>were on the senior trip; fortunately I wasn't one of
>them. Principals swung the most paddles, but teachers
>did too. Even though a whipping in the principal's
>office was private, it could be heard up and down the
>hallway, and within fifteen minutes it seemed that
>everyone in the school knew who had been on the
>receiving end.
>
>I suppose it is possible that someone may have been
>paddled bare in a locker room, but I never heard about
>it. It didn't make much difference there because gym
>shorts offered mighty little protection.
>
>I know many will not agree with me today, but I for
>one appreciate the fact that my school years were
>spent in a school that made us behave. Everyone knew
>the rules, and everyone knew the likely consequences
>of their actions. I never once heard a recipient of a
>school spanking complain about unfairness.
>
>In those days teachers and principals didn't have to
>contact parents for permission to discipline nor did
>they need another professional to witness in the event
>someone would question the severity of the paddling.
>Perhaps this would not have been true had we lived in
>a city, but we were in a small town where everyone
>knew everyone else, and teachers were respected,
>important members of the community, and our parents
>entrusted them to do what was best for us which
>sometimes included spanking.
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Author:
Billy
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:03:13:45 09/07/10 Tue
Tom, it was the same at my school as yours, as I said in my previous post. It was either over pants or on hands with ruler, and always in class by teacher. But I am asking this because I have seen several posts on other forums where they say they were spanked with pants down in class during that time, so it is possible that it happened in some schools. Nearly all of the posters said it happened in junior classes, maybe up to 12 years at the most, and mostly during the fifties.
As you know it is difficult to tell what is fact and what is fantasy in forums like these, but I am still cutious to know if this type of spanking really happened in some schools in the past. Do you know of any official or historic sites where one can check this? Maybe the administration of this forum can help in this, and I would be very grateful if they do.
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Barbara to Billy
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:16:31:32 08/29/10 Sun
I was really referring to home punishments when using the bare method, but support public punishment in schools for both sexes.
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Author:
Billy to Barbara
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:13:20:55 08/31/10 Tue
>I was really referring to home punishments when using
>the bare method, but support public punishment in
>schools for both sexes.
Did you ever see bare punishments when you were at school?
I think this type of bare public punishment is more fit for juvenile crime as a deterrent for minors who see it and have criminal tendencies. At least if not entirely public it should be done in front of teenage schoolchildren and other witnesses to shame the boy for his crime and also show youngsters what will happen if they commit any serious crime.
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Author:
Sally
[ Edit | View ]		Date Posted:17:30:17 07/30/11 Sat
You can only spank a child so hard without leaving a mark and once a boy has reached age 12 or 13, he has learned to bear discomfort without protest.
However, at this age, you can reduce him to tears as I do my step-son. Drop his pants and underwear to the floor and make him place his hands on top of his head.
He may be able to bear the physical pain, but his 'private' parts, now sprouting pubic hair and increasing in length and girth, will flop and jiggle like an airport wind sock.
After he had been suspended for fighting I once had him drop his pants and shorts, and proceeded to lecture him about fighting with other boys at school as he covered his penis and scrotum with his hands. I then had him remove his shirt, forcing his hands away from his modesty. I then had him place his hands on top of his head and when he asked, 'Why?', I told him matter-of-factly that he never complained on pool outings that I was able to see his broad shoulders and well-defined chest and abdominals, so why should they be covered now?
He wept in humiliation as I walloped his backside and well he should have. For though he still didn't have to shave and his voice had a long way to go changing, he was a freak of nature and covering his mule-like genitals was out of the question.
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